Defacto Ban of the Beacon (for good reason)

Chipsz

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Hello, its Chipsz here, again... :lol:

I had a discussion with TheChosenOne_NZ and christp123 about Withers, Nether Stars, and Beacons the other day.
It all started when I found my very first ever Wither Skull during an adventure in a nether fortress.
After I found the skull, I took it home straight away, and tried to put it in a item fram to show it off coz I'm like that :ugeek:
I discovered while trying to place the skull, that I did not have permission!
So I made a "/modreq" and TheChosen one explained that its to stop people from spawning Withers and how it would be bad for the server, make it lag, possibly crash it, if it doesn't get killed, etc. All of this was quite reasonable, however, upon being notified of the status of Withers on the lolnet server, I realized that the beacons I have seen around the server where brought into existence via commands/creative.
I wanted to know if it was possible for a normal user to obtain a Nether Star (the nether Star is used for crafting a beacon).
The answer was like a blunt NO.
I protested this, sort of like a cake head I admit, I was over tired, however that is no excuse, so I apologize to TheChosenOne_NZ and christp123 if I came across as a cake head or too abrasive, sorry guys. :oops:

Now back to the matter at hand.
I'd like user to be able to obtain Nether Stars, in order for the crafting of beacons.
I am really bummed that I can get a beacon for my base. :(

So I have come up with some compromise ideas so that myself and others whom long to have a beacon of their own can obtain the precious Nether Star.

My first idea is that there be some sort of trade that could be done between a user (with Wither skulls and soulsand) and a mod. This is the basis of the idea where the Wither skulls and Soulsand be traded for a Nether star, because they're not allowed to spawn one to fight etc. There could be more required for the trade to commence, for example, items that would be used in a battle against a Wither be added to the trade, in game money, etc etc.

My second idea is that a user with the Wither Skulls and Soulsand, organize a time when the server could host a spawning of a Wither. There could be an arena created where people could watch the battle, it would be pretty awesome I think, but perhaps a bit exhausting of the lolnet resources, which is why I favor the first idea.
There could also be requirements other then having the skulls and sand in order to gain the opportunity to battle a Wither on the server, like a payment of money in game etc.

So yeah, please let me know what you think, or if you have any ideas about this Beacon/Wither/Nether Star situation.



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Chris_NZ

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Re: BAN ON BEACONS

The thing about the wither boss, it can't be contained. BUT there is an opportunity to gain the privilege to fight the wither boss, and that is (I think) the Lolnet Christmas Giveaway. It is a low chance that you will get it but it is a chance none the less.
 

Assassin

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Re: BAN ON BEACONS

Well maybe a mod can make a bedrock arena for it since the wither break blocks except bedrock.obsidian break if hit by a wither skull.And i forgot that mobgriefing is not allowed in these server.a player can outrun a wither by riding a horse :D
 

TaxMan0_0

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Re: BAN ON BEACONS

The last Christmas give-away i got the chance to fight the Wither (And killed it like a BOSS) thats why i have a beacon outside my house :p but yeah atm the only way to fight the wither is win a chance at the Christmas give-away.
 

Chipsz

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Re: BAN ON BEACONS

christp123 said:
The thing about the wither boss, it can't be contained. BUT there is an opportunity to gain the privilege to fight the wither boss, and that is (I think) the Lolnet Christmas Giveaway. It is a low chance that you will get it but it is a chance none the less.
Ahh, yes, Taxman in later posts tells us of the opportunity to fight the Wither.
When you write "cannot be contained", do you mean to say that Bedrcock and/or Obsidian can not contain the Wither? According to the Wiki, obsidian can be destroyed by a Wither Explosion as a "special effect"

nnewman said:
Why not combine both ideas?
ok, so idea number three will be like idea one, except instead of getting a straight up trade where one would end up with the Nether star, that after the trade has commenced there would be a time organized for the fight?
To add to this, maybe the fight can be done on a temporary server, and the stuff traded for the opportunity to fight the wither be moved over tot he temp server for the fight?
If a temp serer where to be used, would that not create less strain on the main server?

Assassin said:
Well maybe a mod can make a bedrock arena for it since the wither break blocks except bedrock.obsidian break if hit by a wither skull.And i forgot that mobgriefing is not allowed in these server.a player can outrun a wither by riding a horse :D
A Wither can break obsidian? wow! I'd like to see this, however for some reason on a single player creative world I can't make the Wither for some reason.... I know what I'm doing, I read the wiki.
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wither
Wow it would seem you are right, I did some reading around, and look!

www.minecraftwiki.net said:
Obsidian is able to resist all explosions (except for the wither's blue skull) at its high blast resistance of 6,000.
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Obsidian
TaxMan0_0 said:
The last Christmas give-away i got the chance to fight the Wither (And killed it like a BOSS) thats why i have a beacon outside my house :p but yeah atm the only way to fight the wither is win a chance at the Christmas give-away.
Thats awsome TaxMan0_0, can I just say I always see a wide eyed kinda suprized looking face at the end of your name. any way...
Can you tell me how this fight was hosted? It would be most relevent to this thread.



Thanks everyone for your input so far, basically I would like to see a more frequent opportunity to be available for wither battles, coz seriously, once a year? in a competition? It puts a mighty high price on a beacon, but maybe that's the way things are intended to be?

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Schnicks_NZ

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Re: BAN ON BEACONS

beacons lag the server.. hence why they are only located at spawn...
 

Chipsz

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Re: BAN ON BEACONS

Schnicks_NZ said:
beacons lag the server.. hence why they are only located at spawn...
Ahhhh, ok. Now that closes this case!
Can't really do much about that I guess.. Maybe one day the ideas raised will be possible, until then, I guess there is a some what de facto ban on beacons ;)

Thanks Schnicks :)

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TaxMan0_0

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Chipsz said:
Thats awsome TaxMan0_0, can I just say I always see a wide eyed kinda suprized looking face at the end of your name. any way...
Can you tell me how this fight was hosted? It would be most relevent to this thread.
I did it in James137137's server and I defeated it (Along with TheChosenOne although could've done it mah self :p but it was fun to fight along side him! :D ) And after it was defeated, went onto Lolnet.co.nz :p and james137137 gave me the Nether Star to craft the Beacon as it was my prize, Now it(The beacon) stands infront of mine and TheChosenOne's house for all to see :D :p :) (Atm its the only Beacon thats not at the spawn.)
 

Chipsz

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TaxMan0_0 said:
I did it in James137137's server and I defeated it (Along with TheChosenOne although could've done it mah self :p but it was fun to fight along side him! :D ) And after it was defeated, went onto Lolnet.co.nz :p and james137137 gave me the Nether Star to craft the Beacon as it was my prize, Now it(The beacon) stands infront of mine and TheChosenOne's house for all to see :D :p :) (Atm its the only Beacon thats not at the spawn.)
Sorry to burst your bubble but your wrong bro. :eek:
Check out the west path of Westgate2 @ coordinates: x-10215 y64 z-3201

you will find 3 beacons.

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Chipsz

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Schnicks_NZ said:
thats thechosenones house... he is a mod
Was just pointing out to Tax that there lay beacons beyond the spawn other then his ;)
Taxman0_0 said:
Atm its the only Beacon thats not at the spawn.
Also, I totally started lagging when I was by the 3 beacons! :lol:
 
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